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Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 17:17:14
af Lenada
Hej æug..jeg håber i kan hjælpe mig. Min forlovede og jeg planlægger at indgå ægteskab i sverige, for derefter at ansøge FS via eu-regler..Men! Min forlovede har et indrejseforbud i dk, med indberetning i sis, frem til marts 2014. Vi overvejer derfor om at ansøge nationalt svensk visum (d-visum). Formålet vil være indgåelse af ægteskab i sverige+bryllup og eu-fs. Tror I, at min forlovede i sådan et tilfælde vil kunne få udstedet visum, hvis vi ellers opfylder de andre krav også? Håber på noget info evt erfaring fra andre episoder :)

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 17:26:22
af fundiver199
Nej det tror jeg bestemt ikke, at han kan. Der skal være meget tungtvejende og typisk humanitære grunde til at ignorere en SIS-indberetning og udstede et nationalt begrænset visum. Og et ønske om at gifte sig er næppe en sådan grund, bla. fordi I jo bare kan gøre dette i et andet land.

Men derimod kan I gifte jer i hans hjemland. Og når han således er blevet til et familiemedlem af dig, der er omfattet af retten til fri bevægelighed i EU, så "overruler" det SIS-indberetningen. Og i den situation ikke bare kan men skal Sverige udstede et D-visum til ham, så han kan nyde godt af sin EU-ret til indrejse i Sverige.

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 17:38:06
af Lenada
Tja ok..dette var en overvejelse, i forbindelse med at jeg de kommende næste måneder ikke har mulighed for at tage fri fra studie og job samt at vi havde fået tilladelse til indgåelse af ægteskab i sverige, og derfor troede at ambassaden i højere grad kunne forstå situation, da brylluppet skal stå i sverige fordi vi har familie og venner her..måske vi skulle kontakte ambassaden..

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 17:53:53
af fundiver199
I har da lov at prøve. Men som medlem af Schengen er Sverige forpligtet til kun at udstede visum til personer med SIS-indberetning i helt særlige situationer. Der er jo åbne indre grænser i Schengen. Så er man først kommet til Sverige, kan man jo frit og uhindret rejse videre til det schengenland, hvor man er uønsket. Så hvis schengenlandene ikke respekterer hinandens indberetninger til SIS, undermineres hele systemet jo.

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 18:08:02
af fundiver199
Nedenstående er, hvad der står i visumhåndbogen om visum med begrænset territorial gyldighed. Så kan du selv vurdere, om du synes, at jeres situation svarer til nogle af de eksempler, der gives.

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/bibliotek/publ ... ndbook.pdf

Visa with limited territorial validity

Legal basis: Visa Code, Article 25

9.1.2.1. Issue of a visa with limited territorial validity to persons not fulfilling the entry conditions

If an applicant does not fulfil the entry conditions or if a Member State under the prior consultation procedure objects to the issuance of a visa, the application shall be refused. However, when it is nevertheless considered necessary on humanitarian grounds, for reasons of national interest or because of international obligations to do so, a visa with limited territorial validity may exceptionally be issued.

Example: The UN Secretary General has set up a meeting in Geneva (Switzerland) between a head of state subject to a visa ban and the opposition leader of the third country concerned in order to find a negotiated solution to the political situation in the third country. The Swiss consulate decides to issue a visa for reasons of national interest.

In cases where it is deemed necessary to issue a new visa during the same six-month period to an applicant who, over this six-month period, has already spent 90 days on the basis of a uniform visa, a visa with limited territorial validity allowing for an additional stay during the six month period may be issued.

Example: a Pakistani national stayed in Estonia from 15.3. to 15.6. and set up a research project and has since returned to Pakistan. Immediately after his return, the Estonian project manager realises that it is necessary to have the Pakistani scientist come back otherwise the project will be lost.

In this case a visa with limited territorial validity allowing for a stay of up to three months in Estonia may be issued.

9.1.2.2. Issue of a visa with limited territorial validity without carrying out required prior consultation

Generally, no final decision should be taken on a visa application without having carried out prior consultation of (an)other Member State(s), where applicable. However, when the Member State concerned considers it necessary on humanitarian grounds, for reasons of national interest or because of international obligations and if for reasons of urgency, it is considered necessary to issue a visa without carrying out required prior consultation, such a visa should be of limited territorial validity.

Example: A Vietnamese civil servant (for which prior consultation is required) needs urgently to travel to France to replace a colleague who was to participate in high level EN 71 EN political negotiations with representatives of the French government.

Since there is no time to carry out the necessary prior consultation of another Member State the French consulate issues a visa with limited territorial validity. The territorial validity of the visas referred to in points 9.1.2.1 – 9.1.2.2 should in general be restricted to the territory of the issuing Member State and only one entry should be granted.

Exceptionally the validity of such visas may be extended to more Member States than the issuing one, subject to the consent of those Member States. Such consent may be obtained locally or at central level.

Example: an Egyptian national (for which prior consultation is required) has been granted a visa with territorial validity in order to attend urgent business meetings in Vienna (Austria), and the visa has been issued without the prior consultation having been carried out. Since there are no direct flights to Vienna, the visa holder must fly to Munich (Germany) and therefore the territorial validity of the visa should be limited to Germany and Austria. It is necessary to obtain Germany's consent to this.

9.1.2.3. Issue of a visa with limited territorial validity to a person holding a travel document not recognised by all Member States

If the applicant holds a travel document that is recognised by one or more, but not all Member States, a visa valid for the territory of the Member States recognising the travel document shall be issued. If the issuing Member State does not recognise the applicant's travel document, the visa issued shall only be valid for that Member State and the visa sticker should be affixed to the uniform format for the separate sheet for affixing visa stickers, see Annex 24.

Such visas may be issued allowing for several entries, see point 9.1.1.3.

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 19:01:41
af Lenada
Tak fundiver..tror det vil være lidt risikabelt at ansøge, hvis det virker lidt umuligt, selvom formålet er fs via eu-regler..måske vil det kun skabe mere tvivl, hvis vi får afslag og så på et senere tidspunkt ønsker at ansøge...:)

Re: Visum til ægteskabsformål

: 31.10.2013 19:22:52
af fundiver199
Jeg er helt enig. Det at have gifteplaner falder helt klart hverken ind under humanitære årsager, nationale interesser eller internationale forpligtelser.