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Papers, translations and practical info

: 27.03.2012 00:34:46
af ifif
Hi

We are a couple, danish and guatemalan. We are at the moment staying in Guatemala where I, the danish part have been visiting. We are planing to live in denmark, Iam going home in a few weeks and my boyfriend will follow in July. We are planing to get married as soon as my boyfriend arrives in denmark so we can start the process for FS.
Now the questions are:
1 What papers does my boyfriend have to bring? He has been married but now (ofcourse) divorced.
2 What documents do we need to have translated? And to what language? Danish or english?
3 What about college diploma? Also translated?
4 My boyfriend is a industrial engineer, does that help in the FS process?
5. does he need to make any approach with the danish consulate in Guatemala? ( The consul seems like he is doing this job for the money, wich is very normal here in Guatemala.. )

Regards Ifif

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 27.03.2012 06:51:26
af mh1
Check what is required for marriage here:
https://www.borger.dk/Emner/familie-og- ... iftes.aspx

Documentation can be translated to English.

For evaluation of foreign education documentation must be sent to the Danish Agency for Universities and Internationalisation. Read here how to do:
http://en.iu.dk/

Since Guatemala is not an 'apostille-state' documentation must be legalised (verified) by the Guatemalan authorities AND the Danish representation. It means that the documentation must be presented to the relevant authority (most likely the Foreign Ministry) to be stamped, and afterwards presented to the Danish representation for another stamp.

NB! It is the ORIGINAL document that must be legalised, not the translation. However, the translation must be done by an authorised translator. In some countries the translation must also be notarised.

You can probably find information about the precise Guatemalan procedure on the Foreign Ministry's webpage.

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 28.03.2012 16:01:13
af ifif
Thank you for the fast respond.

I have a few more questions.

1. Does it help in the FS process that my boyfriend is a industrial engineer?
2. My boyfriend is divorced and as a result of that he has ended up with a bad credit in his country. What will this meen for our FS process?

Thank you.
Ifif

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 28.03.2012 20:09:38
af mh1
It seems to me that you need to read here: http://www.aegteskabudengraenser.dk/vej ... mmenforing

You will find answer to both your questions and probably also to some that you didn't know you needed to ask :wink:

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 29.03.2012 00:22:15
af ifif
Thank you for the link, I have read this before and again today, many times.
Unfortunately I haven't found any answers to my questions. ( and might even be more confused )

The way that I read the Positiv list is that it is me ( the danish part) that have to have a job on the positive list.. Is that correct?

So still, if anybody knows the answers to my to questions in my prew answer, feel free to reply. :)

ifif

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 29.03.2012 06:47:59
af mh1
Since the rules will most likely be changed before you will be able to apply for family reunification (May/June), and nobody can be absolutely sure what precisely will be the applicable law in July, unfortunately nobody can answer your questions completely.

Regarding the 'Positive list' I find it is stated perfectly clearly that it is relevant for the foreign spouse, not for the Danish. A Danish professor does not have any better chance of getting family reunification than a Danish truck driver with only 9th grade, if both of them fulfill the other requirements (age, connection to DK, housing, income, not having taken 'kontanthjælp' within the last 3 years).

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/da-dk/Ophold/a ... listen.htm :
"Udlændinge, som har fået arbejde inden for et af de erhverv, hvor der er mangel på kvalificeret arbejdskraft, har særligt let adgang til det danske arbejdsmarked. Disse erhverv er opført på Positivlisten. Ordningen omfatter også personer, som har søgt om asyl."

The thing is that the foreign person MUST HAVE a job before coming to DK. And just now that is really difficult to find.

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 29.03.2012 16:40:28
af ifif
Thank you for your answer.

I read the link from nyidk.dk. And yes there it was clear to me. :)
The thing that confuesed me was/is that in the guide from ÆUG it says
"Hvis referencepersonen er ansat i en stilling på positivlisten, kan der dispenseres for følgende krav
til ægtefællesammenføring efter Udlændingelovens §9:"

it says nothing about the applicant.

In the guide me the dane is the referencepesonen....
"Den person, der ønsker at få en
opholdstilladelse, kaldes for ansøgeren, og den person, som ansøgeren er gift med eller har et
ægteskabslignende forhold til, kaldes for referencen. "

ifif

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 29.03.2012 19:39:27
af mh1
I checked and can see that also the Danish spouse's job MAY give dispensation:
"Ligeledes gælder der en særlig praksis i tilfælde, hvor hensynet til det danske samfunds interesse i at fastholde kvalificeret arbejdskraft taler for det. Pointkravet kan derfor fraviges, hvis ægtefællen i Danmark arbejder inden for et erhverv, som er på positivlisten."

BUT it is not enough to have an education, you have to have a job, and I could not find any decisions where there has been given dispensation because of the Danish spouse's job. Note the 'KAN' which in most cases becomes 'KAN IKKE - selv om' :?

But again: the rules will most likely be changed before you can apply anyway, so the advice for now is to wait and see what they are at that time.

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 13.07.2012 22:41:28
af ifif
Hello again :-)
One quick quistion, my boyfrinds lawyer have been at the danish consulate in Guate, and he chages 40 euro for each paper to stamp, my Q is, can he get a stamp that covers all papers or does he have to have all the papers stamped individually?
Ifif

Re: Papers, translations and practical info

: 14.07.2012 08:54:07
af mh1
Each document (whether it consists of one or several pages) has to have its own stamp. Bothering because of the expense, but that's how it is.