permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

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permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 30.12.2012 01:45:16

Hi there
I find this place the only one, which gives clear information. I ve tried to check conditions for permanent card under eu law on the danish official site but it only states about temporary residence card under eu law. my question is if ones you get temporary residence card under eu law as a family reunification with a danish spouse, what are the conditions to get permanent? i understand I must live five years in the country but I could not find the other conditions for me or my danish spouse in order to prevent any troubles not getting it after temporary expires. I will be thankful to get a clearification or the conditions stated.

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af DBS » 30.12.2012 09:39:56

Maybe you can use this:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11068

With a little help of google translate.

Special last post :wink:

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af DBS » 31.12.2012 07:15:33

BTW, very importen, apply for permanent card, before the other expire, else you have to leave the country :(

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 31.12.2012 09:46:10

ok as i understood from the link and conversation, under eu law if ones you obtain temporary card permanent will be given also under eu also and all i need is my husband to work. under danish law i have to pass danish and work three years out of five. I m just really afraid of danish rules. I know it is a stupid question but is it sure that denmark follows eu law when giving permanent, so I wont be in such situation that I needed those crazy danish conditions?
do i apply for permanent card a year before temporary expires?

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af mh1 » 31.12.2012 09:53:14

If you apply for a permanent EU-card, that is what you will get, provided you fulfill the few conditions there are.

Denmark is not a banana republic and does not handle applications arbitrarily.
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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 31.12.2012 12:10:54

thank you for the information. No, I know Denmark is a modern prospective country. I was just wondering if I had to still work three years out of five on full time employment to attach ths information as a additional positive one?If they dont take it so much into consideration then I will just do part time jobs.
Does my husband have to have a full time employment during five years or finds right?
kind regards

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af mh1 » 31.12.2012 16:43:41

NO. For EU-residence card ONLY EU-rules apply. Danish national rules are completely irrelevant.

Read here:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/re ... dex_en.htm
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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 02.01.2013 21:49:22

ok, thats great, it does sound really easy. i have last question regarding permanent residence under eu law. when you go on danish site and read about temporary under eu it gives you a link to notat om tidsbergranset ophold after opholdirektivet where they write about it mentioning danish national conditions what is why i started writing here. because it was on the page permanent under eu law but confusing information. can anyone explain what that is
i ll be very thankful

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af DBS » 02.01.2013 22:06:35

EU law = Directive

So that the directive becomes a danish law, the rules have to be writen into "opholdsdirektivet" that is the link you found.
https://www.nyidanmark.dk/NR/rdonlyres/ ... ophold.pdf
The link is a note about that.

(probaly mh has a more correct explanation :oops: )

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 03.01.2013 13:39:05

Ok but what connection does it have to eu permanent residence card, as it is placed on the same page and looks like danish law and where can i look at application for permanent eu card under eu law
:shock:

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af mh1 » 03.01.2013 17:04:27

Read the rules on English here: http://www.nyidanmark.dk/NR/rdonlyres/4 ... 22af21.pdf

As far as I can see, you should apply to 'Udlændingestyrelsen' - the form is here, but only in Danish: https://www.nyidanmark.dk/NR/rdonlyres/ ... retten.pdf
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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af fundiver199 » 04.01.2013 09:54:37

It is perfectly possible for you to apply for permanent residenceship after the national danish rules regardless, that you have a residence card after EU-rules. There is just no obvious advantage to do this, now that the residence requirement has been increased from 4 to 5 years thereby cancelling, what was more or less the only advantage of the danish rules over EU-rules.

But still you need to decide, which set of rules you want to reply after. And just because both sets of rules are described on the same information page on Nyidanmark, doens´t mean they are intertwined in any way, so please don’t get confused about this.

Its just like, if in the same job advertisement a company is seeking 3 engineers as well as 2 lorry drivers and a receptionist. Then you select, which of the vacant positions, you want to apply for. And if you want to apply for the position as receptionist, then you skip the text describing, which qualifications people applying for the other 5 positions should possess, since this information is not relevant for you.

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 04.01.2013 10:58:02

I think I wouldnt apply under Danish national rules because as we are a couple for example my husband has a full time employment but I have a full time danish school and part time jobs. Under danish national law you must have 3 years full time employment and the danish course that means you really have to try hard and not to plan for example any children we are in the age for. Although, eu rules do not require any work or language skills from me, it just makes me feel safer and more relaxed to take things slowly and not to worry about keeping the same job.

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af fundiver199 » 04.01.2013 11:10:13

Like I say, there are no obvious advantages of choosing the current danish national rules over the EU-rules. Its like if you can buy 2 kg of sugar for 10 DKK or 1 kg of sugar for 12 DKK. In theory you have a choise, but its an extremely easy choise, since paying more for less makes little if any sence.

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Re: permanent residence card in Denmark under EU law

Indlæg af melodisk » 04.01.2013 13:00:02

I am very thankful for the information you provide us as I believe it can help not only me but other readers as well.

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